I just noticed that you said that you built an image from Encore. The correct procedure is to always use the build folder as your input the BluStreak Premaster, and to use BluStreak for burning test discs or images, since it will determine the directory and file sequence that appears on the replicated disc, not the original authoring system.
Unfortunately a bug in BluStreak 1.1 can cause replication failure if you choose an Encore image. This has been fixed in BluStreak 2.
I didn't realize that there were any burners that did only single layer. I have a Pioneer BDR-203 in an external enclosure, and an older Matshita IDE drive in my old Mac Pro. They both work fine. Nowadays you'll get something faster for less money. I would check out Other World Computing.
Thanks for the replies, I've just created my BD Image out of CS4 and it came to 38GB. When I was trying to burn a test I found out that my Pioneer BD-202 doesn't actually burn BD DLs so I'm looking into alternatives.
Can anyone recommend any dual-layer Blu-ray burners?
Many thanks, I will be looking to purchase BluStreak very soon!
there is still a problem with adobe media-endoder dolby AC-3. there is still the wrong bitstream-ID, but this wont affect the replicated disk to be not replicated.
the former sonic-product-manager scott eppstein confirmed that the bitstream-ID woulnd´t affect the replication - he discussed that problem with dolby laboratories - but the bitstream-ID will never (ever?!) be read out by your BD-players.
but to be sure I´m 100% BD-spec-complient, I´m allways using compressor to create the dolby AC-files as it is a certificated encoder - never had a problem with it´s output.
I'd just like to confirm that Adobe Media Encoder's AVC encodes pass all the necessary stream validation tests, and many people are using it successfully for this. At one point it was necessary to use Compressor or another AC-3 encoder, but this may have changed.
So for a Mac-only workflow, Encore > BluStreak is a great option. On the downside there have been many quirks and bugs with Encore, but it's menus in particular are superior to any of the other solutions I've tried in a similar price-range on either platform (especially in CS5) so it may well be worth the headache to you.
On the plus side, the new Tracer capabilities of BluStreak 2.0
were designed with troubleshooting and correcting issues like this specifically in mind, and problems like Encore's infamous subtitle-setting bug, for example, are straightforward to fix.
The bottom line is, if you don't like DVDIt Pro HD and you don't want to build and program menus from scratch, then Encore > BluStreak is your only option in this price-range !
My advice would be to download the demo, try building a test project, and use BluStreak burner (free) to write some test copies:
There have been no encoding issues for replication from Adobe Media Encoder CS4 or CS5, and there are no issues with replication if you are careful to use NTFS hard drives, or to burn a BDCMF folder using the Premaster function. Always use the build folder as the source, and burn your playable test discs with Premaster if you want to test what will be on the final replicated disc.
If you don't have a burner on the Mac, use a disc image created by Premaster to burn on the PC for playback testing, otherwise you are unlikely to get a good layer break. Use ImgBurn on the PC. If you submit your BDCMF folder on a data disc burned from the PC, use UDF data mode.
If you have a stream file larger than 25 GB, you will not be able to use Premaster 1.1 to set a layer break. We are in beta on BluStreak Premaster 2, where that problem is solved. BluStreak 2 also includes Tracer, where you can edit and fix navigation errors.
We are working on a new web site at www.rivergatesoftware.com, where you may read the documentation on BluStreak Premaster 2.0.
I am so sorry to disturbing your time.
Already I got a solution for this exception. The beginning of exception, PLAYLIST and CLIPINF folder was problem.
( try to 'new jobs' without PLAYLIST and CLIPINF folder, It was no problem to open 'new jobs'. therefore, I found that reason of exception.)
Power Producer made those PLAYLIST and CLIPINF. but, I have changed Authoring Software to TMPGEnc Athoring Works4.
after done, Everything is no problem ! I am so glad to see it.
Thank you so much for your attention.
Best regards,
- Yoshi
The list of files cannot help without the sizes, and more information about your system. If you open the BDMV folder in the Apple Finder, you can do a screen dump and email it to support@dvdafteredit.com. If the files don't all fit in one window view, please scroll up and send another.
My first guess is that you are running in 32-bit mode and that one of your files, not a stream file, is too big to fit in a 32-bit variable. Though even that seems unlikely unless one of the Java files is very very big. The stream files, of course, can be much larger.
What is your hardware and software configuration? You can send the info from the "About This Mac" on the Apple menu.
Also you could send the console log from the crash, though you can send the above info first.
The error message comes from Apple's disc recording framework. Can you please give us more detailed information? Is the drive mounted internally or externally? Where did you purchase it? What brand media are you using? (It makes a big difference). Are you writing to BD-R or BD-RE? Single or double layer? If BD-RE, erasing or burning? Have you tried burning with Apple's Disc Utility or Toast? Have you tried contacting the manufacturer?
Do you have the drive's latest firmware update? I see some confusion on various web forums on how to apply the firmware update, under Windows. For further testing, I would suggest you purchase a small pack of Verbatim BD-RE single layer discs, that way you won't destroy write-once media.
BluStreak Premaster cannot create a layer break except at the beginning of a file. It will not honor segments created by another application. A result of this is that it cannot premaster a project with a main video larger than 25 GB. Just having chapter points isn't enough, the authoring application must encode the output specifically so that the layer break will be on an AACS encryption boundary, or at the beginning of a file. To get around this limitation would require that we re-multiplex the stream in question.
The purpose of a disc image is to burn a disc on another system, when the Mac does not have a burner. The AACS is always applied at the plant, not during BluStreak preparation.
We are planning to have various levels of the software like before, probably at the high end a combination application that does everything, and a reasonable upgrade path from the lesser products. Also, we expect to charge for upgrades as the format and capabilities evolve, unlike DVDAfterEdit which languished because it was based on a defunct development system. (CodeWarrior).
We would like to charge replication facilities a per-use fee on replications made from end-user BDMV folders, since they tend to cannibalize our sales. Or perhaps a required support contract, at a reasonable price. What do you think?
I've been using DVDAfterEdit since the days it was called TFDVDEdit and have recently started authoring the first Blu-rays using Sonic Scenarist BD. While Scenarist is good to do the authoring, it has a very bad debugging tool bundled (Scenarist QC) that makes navigation checks of complex discs a pain. Since I'm working for a replication plant we do have customers that have their own authoring studios that use software like Encore and are therefore unable to deliver a BDCMF for replication. To make long things short: When we buy BluStreak now will there be an upgrade option to BluStreak + Tracer like in the TFDVDEdit days?
BluStreak Tracer is not a replacement for ArcSoft Total Theater, which plays commercial Blu-ray discs with AACS encryption and runs on Windows.
We have not set a price yet, but are considering two versions, one with burning and BDMV folder building only, and one that adds what is now BluStreak Premaster.
Is there a ballpark figure for this software? Sound like a great addition to my tools. I was about to purchase Arcsoft Total Theater, but fortunately I didn't!
And 2 days later comes this new...great!
Please keep us posted.
larryapple wrote:
Rivergate Software has announced the forthcoming product <a href="http://blustreak.dvdafteredit.com/blustreak-tracer-macintosh" target=_blank"> BluStreak Tracer - A Blu-ray player, tracer, debugger, and command editor for Blu-ray content.
This new forum is envisioned as a place to discuss features and how to use Tracer in combination with Adobe Encore to create compelling Blu-ray discs. We expect to release preliminary alpha and beta versions of this new software in the coming weeks. In the meantime, we would like to encourage questions and suggestions on this forum.
For others on the forum, we found this
http://www.lg.com/us/computer-products/optical-media/LG-blu-ray-BE12LU30...
and it seems to be working for us. We have had some failures on test discs, but I can only imagine how problematic BD-DLs can be.
We have it hooked in via USB, but it's also supposed to work via eSATA (but I couldn't get that to work here and we were on a tight deadline)
Hi Larry,
Yes, I always have Encore spit out the build folders for me, whether it's the BDMV/CERTIFICATE for Blu-ray or VIDEO_TS for DVD.
I've used the build folder as the source in BluStreak and had no troubles finding a layer break and exporting a BDCMF for replication.
We're sending it off today for replication, so every finger I have is crossed that it works okay.
Many thanks for all your help!
I just noticed that you said that you built an image from Encore. The correct procedure is to always use the build folder as your input the BluStreak Premaster, and to use BluStreak for burning test discs or images, since it will determine the directory and file sequence that appears on the replicated disc, not the original authoring system.
Unfortunately a bug in BluStreak 1.1 can cause replication failure if you choose an Encore image. This has been fixed in BluStreak 2.
-Larry
I didn't realize that there were any burners that did only single layer. I have a Pioneer BDR-203 in an external enclosure, and an older Matshita IDE drive in my old Mac Pro. They both work fine. Nowadays you'll get something faster for less money. I would check out Other World Computing.
-Larry
Hi Guys,
Thanks for the replies, I've just created my BD Image out of CS4 and it came to 38GB. When I was trying to burn a test I found out that my Pioneer BD-202 doesn't actually burn BD DLs so I'm looking into alternatives.
Can anyone recommend any dual-layer Blu-ray burners?
Many thanks, I will be looking to purchase BluStreak very soon!
hi,
besides what ian suggested:
there is still a problem with adobe media-endoder dolby AC-3. there is still the wrong bitstream-ID, but this wont affect the replicated disk to be not replicated.
the former sonic-product-manager scott eppstein confirmed that the bitstream-ID woulnd´t affect the replication - he discussed that problem with dolby laboratories - but the bitstream-ID will never (ever?!) be read out by your BD-players.
but to be sure I´m 100% BD-spec-complient, I´m allways using compressor to create the dolby AC-files as it is a certificated encoder - never had a problem with it´s output.
danny
I'd just like to confirm that Adobe Media Encoder's AVC encodes pass all the necessary stream validation tests, and many people are using it successfully for this. At one point it was necessary to use Compressor or another AC-3 encoder, but this may have changed.
So for a Mac-only workflow, Encore > BluStreak is a great option. On the downside there have been many quirks and bugs with Encore, but it's menus in particular are superior to any of the other solutions I've tried in a similar price-range on either platform (especially in CS5) so it may well be worth the headache to you.
On the plus side, the new Tracer capabilities of BluStreak 2.0
http://rivergatesoftware.com/node/15
were designed with troubleshooting and correcting issues like this specifically in mind, and problems like Encore's infamous subtitle-setting bug, for example, are straightforward to fix.
The bottom line is, if you don't like DVDIt Pro HD and you don't want to build and program menus from scratch, then Encore > BluStreak is your only option in this price-range !
My advice would be to download the demo, try building a test project, and use BluStreak burner (free) to write some test copies:
http://blustreak.dvdafteredit.com/blustreak-burner
If they work the way you want, you're good to go.
Ian
There have been no encoding issues for replication from Adobe Media Encoder CS4 or CS5, and there are no issues with replication if you are careful to use NTFS hard drives, or to burn a BDCMF folder using the Premaster function. Always use the build folder as the source, and burn your playable test discs with Premaster if you want to test what will be on the final replicated disc.
If you don't have a burner on the Mac, use a disc image created by Premaster to burn on the PC for playback testing, otherwise you are unlikely to get a good layer break. Use ImgBurn on the PC. If you submit your BDCMF folder on a data disc burned from the PC, use UDF data mode.
If you have a stream file larger than 25 GB, you will not be able to use Premaster 1.1 to set a layer break. We are in beta on BluStreak Premaster 2, where that problem is solved. BluStreak 2 also includes Tracer, where you can edit and fix navigation errors.
We are working on a new web site at www.rivergatesoftware.com, where you may read the documentation on BluStreak Premaster 2.0.
Regards,
Larry
Hi Larry,
I am so sorry to disturbing your time.
Already I got a solution for this exception. The beginning of exception, PLAYLIST and CLIPINF folder was problem.
( try to 'new jobs' without PLAYLIST and CLIPINF folder, It was no problem to open 'new jobs'. therefore, I found that reason of exception.)
Power Producer made those PLAYLIST and CLIPINF. but, I have changed Authoring Software to TMPGEnc Athoring Works4.
after done, Everything is no problem ! I am so glad to see it.
Thank you so much for your attention.
Best regards,
- Yoshi
Hi,
The list of files cannot help without the sizes, and more information about your system. If you open the BDMV folder in the Apple Finder, you can do a screen dump and email it to support@dvdafteredit.com. If the files don't all fit in one window view, please scroll up and send another.
My first guess is that you are running in 32-bit mode and that one of your files, not a stream file, is too big to fit in a 32-bit variable. Though even that seems unlikely unless one of the Java files is very very big. The stream files, of course, can be much larger.
What is your hardware and software configuration? You can send the info from the "About This Mac" on the Apple menu.
Also you could send the console log from the crash, though you can send the above info first.
Regards,
Larry
I apologize, I missed a link to the old web store, we have now finally implemented automatic license generation from within BluStreak Premaster.
Regards,
Larry
i just bought it and don't see anywhere with a license key either
Sorry. I find the mail and de activation file.
Hi Turquis,
The error message comes from Apple's disc recording framework. Can you please give us more detailed information? Is the drive mounted internally or externally? Where did you purchase it? What brand media are you using? (It makes a big difference). Are you writing to BD-R or BD-RE? Single or double layer? If BD-RE, erasing or burning? Have you tried burning with Apple's Disc Utility or Toast? Have you tried contacting the manufacturer?
Do you have the drive's latest firmware update? I see some confusion on various web forums on how to apply the firmware update, under Windows. For further testing, I would suggest you purchase a small pack of Verbatim BD-RE single layer discs, that way you won't destroy write-once media.
Regards,
Larry Applegate
Rivergate Software, Inc.
The link is at the bottom of the product page. Anyone can download it, the demo become full-featured when you buy and apply a license file.
me too
I keep checking the files section in my account and nada
BluStreak Premaster cannot create a layer break except at the beginning of a file. It will not honor segments created by another application. A result of this is that it cannot premaster a project with a main video larger than 25 GB. Just having chapter points isn't enough, the authoring application must encode the output specifically so that the layer break will be on an AACS encryption boundary, or at the beginning of a file. To get around this limitation would require that we re-multiplex the stream in question.
Larry
The purpose of a disc image is to burn a disc on another system, when the Mac does not have a burner. The AACS is always applied at the plant, not during BluStreak preparation.
Larry
Hi Christoph,
We are planning to have various levels of the software like before, probably at the high end a combination application that does everything, and a reasonable upgrade path from the lesser products. Also, we expect to charge for upgrades as the format and capabilities evolve, unlike DVDAfterEdit which languished because it was based on a defunct development system. (CodeWarrior).
We would like to charge replication facilities a per-use fee on replications made from end-user BDMV folders, since they tend to cannibalize our sales. Or perhaps a required support contract, at a reasonable price. What do you think?
Regards,
Larry
I've been using DVDAfterEdit since the days it was called TFDVDEdit and have recently started authoring the first Blu-rays using Sonic Scenarist BD. While Scenarist is good to do the authoring, it has a very bad debugging tool bundled (Scenarist QC) that makes navigation checks of complex discs a pain. Since I'm working for a replication plant we do have customers that have their own authoring studios that use software like Encore and are therefore unable to deliver a BDCMF for replication. To make long things short: When we buy BluStreak now will there be an upgrade option to BluStreak + Tracer like in the TFDVDEdit days?
Regards
Christoph
When I want to ask will be available in the software, Tracer. I look forward to facilitate the work
BluStreak Tracer is not a replacement for ArcSoft Total Theater, which plays commercial Blu-ray discs with AACS encryption and runs on Windows.
We have not set a price yet, but are considering two versions, one with burning and BDMV folder building only, and one that adds what is now BluStreak Premaster.
Hi guys
Is there a ballpark figure for this software? Sound like a great addition to my tools. I was about to purchase Arcsoft Total Theater, but fortunately I didn't!
And 2 days later comes this new...great!
Please keep us posted.
Rivergate Software has announced the forthcoming product <a href="http://blustreak.dvdafteredit.com/blustreak-tracer-macintosh" target=_blank"> BluStreak Tracer - A Blu-ray player, tracer, debugger, and command editor for Blu-ray content.
This new forum is envisioned as a place to discuss features and how to use Tracer in combination with Adobe Encore to create compelling Blu-ray discs. We expect to release preliminary alpha and beta versions of this new software in the coming weeks. In the meantime, we would like to encourage questions and suggestions on this forum.
Regards,
Larry & Robin
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I am slammed with projects and really wanted to make this, forgot all about it, well, not forgot, just thought I could make it and now I am too late.
Argh.
peace.
thanks for the free presentation thought for us anyway. Hope it was a big crowd.