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Any NEW news concerning Encore CS4 and the Adobe Media Encoder?
Wed, 04/20/2011 - 8:34am — AlphaMale
Hi All,
After reading through the long thread about Encore CS4 and the Adobe Media Encoder, I didn't really find an answer, so I was wondering if there was some up-to-date news about the status of files that were encoded using Adobe CS4 products.
I work for the largest duplicator and printer of optical digital media in the UK, but we do a fair bit of replication work too. I do all the authoring for the DVD and Blu-rays that come in, but we're having more interest in BD replication, so I'm wanting to get a workflow up and running. The only software we have that will export to (BD)CMF is DVDit Pro HD, and I don't like it.
I'm seriously considering ditching my DVDit Pro HD rig if I can get the Encore CS4 + BluStreak workflow working for BD-Replication.
I have a couple questions for those who may have used it before...
I'm doing the prep work for a BD-50 replicated job. Pretty simple, a few static menus, but just lots of video which is why it will stretch to a DL.
I'd just like to know if there is anything I need to do special inside of Encore to help this process go as smoothly as possible. I'll be having Encore do all the encoding - are there settings I should set?
I'd probably be creating a Blu-ray folder on my PC and putting it on a hard drive to then open up with BluStreak on a Mac. Unfortunately, I can't author on a Mac.
Encouragement or discouragement, please let me know what you think of this workflow and I'll either buying BluStreak or heading back over to my horrible DVDit ProHD rig.
Many thanks!
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Many Thanks
Hi Guys,
Thanks for the replies, I've just created my BD Image out of CS4 and it came to 38GB. When I was trying to burn a test I found out that my Pioneer BD-202 doesn't actually burn BD DLs so I'm looking into alternatives.
Can anyone recommend any dual-layer Blu-ray burners?
Many thanks, I will be looking to purchase BluStreak very soon!
As for the Drive...
For others on the forum, we found this
http://www.lg.com/us/computer-products/optical-media/LG-blu-ray-BE12LU30...
and it seems to be working for us. We have had some failures on test discs, but I can only imagine how problematic BD-DLs can be.
We have it hooked in via USB, but it's also supposed to work via eSATA (but I couldn't get that to work here and we were on a tight deadline)
I didn't realize that there
I didn't realize that there were any burners that did only single layer. I have a Pioneer BDR-203 in an external enclosure, and an older Matshita IDE drive in my old Mac Pro. They both work fine. Nowadays you'll get something faster for less money. I would check out Other World Computing.
-Larry
Don't use Encore images, use Folder
I just noticed that you said that you built an image from Encore. The correct procedure is to always use the build folder as your input the BluStreak Premaster, and to use BluStreak for burning test discs or images, since it will determine the directory and file sequence that appears on the replicated disc, not the original authoring system.
Unfortunately a bug in BluStreak 1.1 can cause replication failure if you choose an Encore image. This has been fixed in BluStreak 2.
-Larry
Good to know
Hi Larry,
Yes, I always have Encore spit out the build folders for me, whether it's the BDMV/CERTIFICATE for Blu-ray or VIDEO_TS for DVD.
I've used the build folder as the source in BluStreak and had no troubles finding a layer break and exporting a BDCMF for replication.
We're sending it off today for replication, so every finger I have is crossed that it works okay.
Many thanks for all your help!
CS4 and Premaster
There have been no encoding issues for replication from Adobe Media Encoder CS4 or CS5, and there are no issues with replication if you are careful to use NTFS hard drives, or to burn a BDCMF folder using the Premaster function. Always use the build folder as the source, and burn your playable test discs with Premaster if you want to test what will be on the final replicated disc.
If you don't have a burner on the Mac, use a disc image created by Premaster to burn on the PC for playback testing, otherwise you are unlikely to get a good layer break. Use ImgBurn on the PC. If you submit your BDCMF folder on a data disc burned from the PC, use UDF data mode.
If you have a stream file larger than 25 GB, you will not be able to use Premaster 1.1 to set a layer break. We are in beta on BluStreak Premaster 2, where that problem is solved. BluStreak 2 also includes Tracer, where you can edit and fix navigation errors.
We are working on a new web site at www.rivergatesoftware.com, where you may read the documentation on BluStreak Premaster 2.0.
Regards,
Larry
I'd just like to confirm
I'd just like to confirm that Adobe Media Encoder's AVC encodes pass all the necessary stream validation tests, and many people are using it successfully for this. At one point it was necessary to use Compressor or another AC-3 encoder, but this may have changed.
So for a Mac-only workflow, Encore > BluStreak is a great option. On the downside there have been many quirks and bugs with Encore, but it's menus in particular are superior to any of the other solutions I've tried in a similar price-range on either platform (especially in CS5) so it may well be worth the headache to you.
On the plus side, the new Tracer capabilities of BluStreak 2.0
http://rivergatesoftware.com/node/15
were designed with troubleshooting and correcting issues like this specifically in mind, and problems like Encore's infamous subtitle-setting bug, for example, are straightforward to fix.
The bottom line is, if you don't like DVDIt Pro HD and you don't want to build and program menus from scratch, then Encore > BluStreak is your only option in this price-range !
My advice would be to download the demo, try building a test project, and use BluStreak burner (free) to write some test copies:
http://blustreak.dvdafteredit.com/blustreak-burner
If they work the way you want, you're good to go.
Ian
Adobe Media Encoder
hi,
besides what ian suggested:
there is still a problem with adobe media-endoder dolby AC-3. there is still the wrong bitstream-ID, but this wont affect the replicated disk to be not replicated.
the former sonic-product-manager scott eppstein confirmed that the bitstream-ID woulnd´t affect the replication - he discussed that problem with dolby laboratories - but the bitstream-ID will never (ever?!) be read out by your BD-players.
but to be sure I´m 100% BD-spec-complient, I´m allways using compressor to create the dolby AC-files as it is a certificated encoder - never had a problem with it´s output.
danny